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Khift · Jul 25, 2006, 06:10 AM // 06:10

Thank you, Gaile, for saying absolutely nothing once again. You've simply said that sometimes retailers don't give out correct information and haven't said a single thing about the validity of this retailer's claim. This post can just as easily be construed as, "Oops! We weren't supposed to reveal that this soon!" as it can be construed as, "This is wrong information."

If you want to put down a rumor, this is not the way to do it. Stand up and say that the rumor itself is wrong. Do not attack the source of the rumor. You are the content providers and your voice is absolute -- if you say it isn't so, then it isn't so. And so if you want to put down this rumor, which would be very much in your best interests if it happens to be false, then stand up and say, "This is false information." Don't just pussyfoot around the topic. Stand up and say it. Doing this, avoiding the outright denial while attempting to create doubt only affirms the belief that this rumor is true - because if it is true then you can't issue an outright denial.

Sadly, though, this situation becomes much more complex when you consider that parts of disclosed information could be correct whereas parts could be unfounded and incorrect. In such a case an outright denial would come back to bite ANet as parts of it were true and a partial denial would completely affirm some knowledge of the product which can not yet be made public. Honestly, here, if I had to venture a guess I would say that the release date is the most likely to be false about this. Nightfall has been in production for approximately 9 months and still has approximately 3 months to go til it is expected to be on the market. It is very unlikely that the release date could be honed in on this early, and to make things even more uncertain the posted release date would be exactly 6 months after the release of Factions. Thus it is quite possible that EBGames simply guessed at that release date. Other things that could possibly be false would be the other numbers -- the amount of skills, (Factions added 300 unique skills and thus it could be assumed Nightfall would add the same) the number of missions and zones, the amount of guildhalls added and most definitely the number of quests. (Would you honestly expect ANet to know either exactly or approximately how many quests are in the released game with 3 months left til the product goes live?) HOWEVER, the creative content has a much higher chance of being true or to at least contain a nugget of truth. The rest of the information could easily be educated guesses, but who in their right mind would make an educated guess that one of the main selling points of GW:N would be customizable henchies and that they would be involved in a new brand of PvP? Nobody. Mark my words, at some point and at some time the concept of Heroes was included in Nightfall and ANet let EBGames know about it. Whether or not these Heroes still remain in Nightfall or if they were scrapped I do not and can not know. But this piece of evidence lets us know that these were a part of Nightfall's development and likely still are as it is fairly unlikely the posted information is old and out of date and thus no long a part of it.

SO, let me recap: Do not trust the numbers on EBGame's website. They could easily be educated guesses. But do trust the Hero concept. And until Gaile or ANet says directly otherwise this will continue to be considered as truth.

Also, please note that the spot where Gaile said "The information was wrong," was referring to previous information given out by retailers and has no reference to this particular chunk of information given out by EBGames. I would hate to have someone respond to this post saying, "BUT SHE DID CLARIFY!"

Lost Merchant · Jul 25, 2006, 07:02 AM // 07:02

the idea is giving me a bit of a hyp, i'm imaginning leading a war with my henchies ^^, having them all dress like me and all, i'm 15k and their 1.5k... ahh... who needs a guild lol, gunna get high from my own supply! ;D

Elin Grindemyr X · Jul 25, 2006, 07:17 AM // 07:17

dosnt say anything about 2 new char slots..iv heard rumors that anet is gonna keep the char slots at 6..anyone know if this is true or if they are gonna add 2 more?

GloryFox · Jul 25, 2006, 07:31 AM // 07:31

I highly doubt they will keep people at 6 slots. I am sure you will get 2 more slots for merged accounts.

Besides you can always buy slots.

jaibas17 · Jul 25, 2006, 07:35 AM // 07:35

Pre-Release
Ships 10/26/06

woot?

Terra Xin · Jul 25, 2006, 07:49 AM // 07:49

I hope the mesmers wardrobe is better looking than factions.. i mean, the female version was nice, but the guys lucked out on looks... you have to look your best in order to intimidate your foes^^.

Fully customizable henchies? This is like, a guy playing a game, playing a game... Well you never know, they have multiple definitions for the word skill, maybe the word 'hero' doesn't mean henchies... after all, they never said that they were 'henchmen'.

Rogier · Jul 25, 2006, 07:55 AM // 07:55

this sounds good, i like the hench idea and 20 missions and 55 areas sounds awesome! i can't wait!

TheLordOfBlah · Jul 25, 2006, 07:56 AM // 07:56

seems more like prophecies again! YAYAY!!!! more missions, more quests, new skills. I can not wait.

hope the new professions kick as much ass as im expecting

Arcador · Jul 25, 2006, 08:29 AM // 08:29

Sounds cool.

Expect my new Customized henchie's team - WAMMO SQUAD - A full metal squad (too much anime?) made of irresistable hard-core masters of sword melee combat which yeld powerfull constant regeneration effect and ability to counter damage on the fray. They tank without fear, they frenzy due pressure and they don't bring ress signets, cuz they are HARDCORE. ... premade W/Mo ftw

squan · Jul 25, 2006, 08:37 AM // 08:37

sounds good.

check this out, specially the last (bold) part is interesting

E3 2006: Guild Wars Campaign 3
The next update brings a North African flavor to the world.
by Steve Butts
May 11, 2006 - Following the recent release of Factions, the team behind Guild Wars is already hard at work creating an entirely new campaign set for the game. Though team isn't quite ready to start revealing details of the game, they were willing to show us a very impressive trailer that let us get a good look at the locations for the new campaign as well as some concept art for the creatures and NPCs that might populate it.

Starting on a rocky beach, the demo focused on a somewhat run-down dock and a massive, swan-shaped ship with sails that looked like dragonfly wings. From there the game transitions to a North Africa style savannah. Green trees, rocky outcrops and gaily painted mud huts decorate the landscape. We soon traveled to a very interesting windmill that had a hawk-like figure on its top.
By far the most beautiful visuals came when we moved to a massive stone city. Decorated with golden minarets and lush gardens, it looked like the perfect place to relax. There's also a magical touch here as some of the plants actually hang in the air. Water cascading down from them into crystal clear pools gave the whole area a really mystical atmosphere.

After taking a tour and seeing the sights, the team showed us a ton of concept art for the game. The NPCs and creatures all fit the African sort of theme but they show heavy fantasy influences as well. Robed dervishes and giant flattened worms shared the stage with desert warriors and horned tapirs. We'd love to give you details on the new creatures and the classes but the team isn't quite ready to reveal any of those details just yet.

NCSoft told us that the 110 person Guild Wars team has been divided up into two separate campaign teams. That allows them to release an entirely new campaign every six months. Each one is intended to offer a unique visual style based either on real world geography and culture or some sort of mythological setting. Each campaign will also support an entirely new tournament event.

TheBaron82 · Jul 25, 2006, 08:47 AM // 08:47

I hope it will be 105 skills for each of the new proffession, 30 for sin and rt, and 5 for core 6. To make it even 105 for each profession

Raziel665 · Jul 25, 2006, 08:55 AM // 08:55

Customizeble Heroes could very well be just a few, as something on the side for henchmen, not actual henchmen. I wouldnt get my hopes up yet.

Juicey Shake · Jul 25, 2006, 09:06 AM // 09:06

cute but 1 on 1 was not the pvp update I was hoping for

oh well, bring on the pve grind.

luauelveneno · Jul 25, 2006, 09:08 AM // 09:08

lies all lies :P

not confirmed by anet then i dont believe it yet

zeroxy · Jul 25, 2006, 09:10 AM // 09:10

Woohoo BiP henchie here I come!! I just hope they make it so that he uses bip and br when i flash my energy bar, that would own!

Nexium · Jul 25, 2006, 09:18 AM // 09:18

This is Lies Gaile Grey Was in InterNAtional District Last Night and i Asked if She Could Reveal ''Anything About'' In-Game Content Which She Couldent Then i Asked since You Can't Reveal Game Content Is There By Anyway You Could Say What The Story Is about and i Got The Replie That is ''Very hush Hush'' About The game Story So i Really Doubt That Esb... Whould HAve Gotten The Real Info About The Game...

Duly Thankful · Jul 25, 2006, 09:21 AM // 09:21

Quote:

Originally posted by Nexium
This is Lies Gaile Grey Was in InterNAtional District Last Night and i Asked if She Could Reveal ''Anything About'' In-Game Content Which She Couldent Then i Asked since You Can't Reveal Game Content Is There By Anyway You Could Say What The Story Is about and i Got The Replie That is ''Very hush Hush'' About The game Story So i Really Doubt That Esb... Whould HAve Gotten The Real Info About The Game...

Anyone willing to translate this for me?

Nexium · Jul 25, 2006, 09:33 AM // 09:33

I Asked Gaile Grey Can you Reveal Anything About Gw: Nightfall

And Gaile Replied: That it's too Earlie Too Reveal Anything and It's Very Hush Hush'' About The story..

And think ABout it Why Whould some Half assed game site put thing's like that upp and Not Anet Theme Selves?

exiled mat · Jul 25, 2006, 09:53 AM // 09:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raziel665

Customizeble Heroes could very well be just a few, as something on the side for henchmen, not actual henchmen. I wouldnt get my hopes up yet.

It's sounds like we may use our other characters like hench?

Tetris L · Jul 25, 2006, 10:26 AM // 10:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

The problem with all these things is: The information did not come from ArenaNet. The information was wrong.

Bottom line: Wait to hear it from ArenaNet. We'll give you the straight info, and as soon as we can.

Game retailers are known to "make up" (estimate) false (optimistic) release dates and prices. They have a good reason to do so, because they want their customers to pre-order. But why would they make up a wrong list of features? Especially one that is so detailed as the one found on EBgames. Sorry, but that list looks exactly like the kind of list that NCsoft would give (and has given in the past) to retailers for marketing purpose. I guess somebody (at NCsoft or EBgames) goofed and leaked the list before it was supposed to be released. Sh*t happens.